[identity profile] emmalou290.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] vaginapagina
 I called my doctor today because I'm still freaking out.

I told her about the bleeding 3 or 4 days after sex.

She said "I know a lot of women who experience implantation bleeding that soon after sex. I would bet you are pregnant. Come in to see me and let's talk about your options."

My boobs are sore, I'm crampy, my period isn't coming, you guys I think this is it.

I've never been this scared in my entire life.

Date: 2010-12-01 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herloved-beauty.livejournal.com
5-12 days is the standard amount of time, 5 being a very rare occurence. Sore boobs and cramps are symptoms of PMS. It can't hurt to take a pregnancy test there (if you have the insurance/can afford it.)

Date: 2010-12-01 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-jolie-vie.livejournal.com
Did you tell her about the fingering?

Date: 2010-12-01 04:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-jolie-vie.livejournal.com
Well, I wish you the best of luck in whatever outcome would be best for you. Keep us updated.

Date: 2010-12-01 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] extraneousrooot.livejournal.com
I think that was pretty alarmist of her to say that, honestly. Take a home pregnancy test 19 days after the sex in question.

Date: 2010-12-01 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] extraneousrooot.livejournal.com
Yeah. The more I think about it, the less I like it. Especially if you made it clear you were WORRIED about pregnancy and not HOPING FOR pregnancy. Not feeling this at ALL.

I don't remember what day your post was - how long has it been since the sex?

Date: 2010-12-01 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] extraneousrooot.livejournal.com
You have another few days until a pregnancy test would give an accurate result. I know it's REALLY hard to shake pregnancy fears, but it seems really, really, really, really unlikely that you are.

I don't remember if I suggested it in your last post, but Taking Charge of Your Fertility is a fantastic book (even if you are not interested in fertility awareness as birth control) to learn a LOT about your body/your cycle.

Date: 2010-12-01 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herloved-beauty.livejournal.com
You're probably experiencing "phantom symptoms" - symptoms caused by your body because you think you're pregnant. Nausea is also a sign of stress.

I really think taking a blood test for pregnancy would be in your best interest.

Date: 2010-12-01 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hey-kayla-jay.livejournal.com
I'VE HAD THIS. IT'S NOT MYTHICAL OR CRAZY-PEOPLE TALK. I developed one tiny symptom that could have been anything but my mind instantly jumped to pregnancy. I got so worried that other symptoms popped up; sore boobs, nausea, etc.
And your doctor should not have said that to you. Rude.

Date: 2010-12-01 05:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elialshadowpine.livejournal.com
Well, no wonder you're nauseated. Goddess bless, I've gotten nausea so bad from anxiety I've spent the better part of an hour throwing up. I know that there's very little chance I can get pregnant between reproductive disorders and the fact I'm on birth control, but I've still made myself sick worrying about it.

It's very, very unlikely that you're pregnant. I'd be furious if a doctor pulled that on me based on the bleeding alone. Ugh.

Date: 2010-12-01 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velkoria.livejournal.com
because of my anxiety I've had 'morning sickness' for a MONTH! And not just a little... no, waking up and downright puking! Of course because of anxiety that made me think I was pregnant and my boobs became sore, I started getting abdominal pains, and even CRAVINGS. And yet, I'm still babyless so OP signs of pregnancy can be caused by your own mind too =)

Date: 2010-12-01 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spicytoys.livejournal.com
Same here.

Date: 2010-12-01 01:18 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-12-01 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frolicnaked.livejournal.com
If I'm remembering your past post correctly, your sex was protected by a condom, yes? If that's the case -- even assuming typical use and not perfect use -- there's statistically a 15% chance of pregnancy over the course of an entire year (which drops to a 2-3% chance with correct and consistent use). Add to that that bleeding can happen for a few reasons, and a number of symptoms that could be early pregnancy symptoms are also common premenstrual symptoms (like cramping and sore breasts) -- The facts line up to support that pregnancy is neither the only nor the most likely possibility for your situation.

And honestly? If my doctor knew the details of that situation and still proceeded to "bet" I was pregnant over the phone, I'd start to doubt the good sense of that person's medical opinion.

Date: 2010-12-01 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] extraneousrooot.livejournal.com
Here is how I try to look at my own vagina-crises: if I read this in vp, what would I tell the poster? That kind of makes it easier to regain objectivity.

Date: 2010-12-01 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misspaigeb.livejournal.com
I do that too!

Date: 2010-12-01 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frolicnaked.livejournal.com
Are you able to and/or interested in making a complaint to the clinic/office/practice? It can sometimes be a valuable and empowering thing to do. (And specific feedback, even when it's not positive, can help providers improve their care.)

Also, in your other post, I think you mentioned having access to a counselor? Would it be possible to see them sooner rather than later? It seems like this situation is causing you some pretty intense stress.

Date: 2010-12-01 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velkoria.livejournal.com
it seems likely because you're SOOO worried about it =) trust me, been there... when I finally took a pregnancy test I was nearly smacked by everyone around me for wasting money on it because it was sooo obvious I wasn't pregnant... but of course late period = PREGNANCY PANIC!

Date: 2010-12-01 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queensugar.livejournal.com
That was, to be frank, a ridiculous thing for your doctor to say... and "I would bet you are pregnant" strikes me as a very odd thing for a doctor to say. It is extremely unlikely that you are pregnant, there is no reason to believe that you are pregnant, and three to four days is very soon for implantation to occur.

I wish there was more I could do to help you feel better, other than to repeat this. I'm going to put these here as a point form, and be blunt:
+ Your chances of pregnancy, using condoms and withdrawal correctly, are less than (http://www.scarleteen.com/article/reproduction/the_buddy_system_effectiveness_rates_for_backing_up_your_birth_control_with_a_s) 1 in 1,000 per year. So the chances of becoming pregnant from that one incident? Astronomically low.
+ Many things can cause a bit of spotting, fingering being among them. Taken alone, it is not even remotely close to strong evidence of pregnancy, especially not so soon after the event in question.
+ Sore boobs and cramps sound more like PMS to me, especially, again, given the timing.
+ There's some chance of pregnancy whenever a penis and vagina have sexual contact. But in this case, there is no reason to believe you are pregnant. You used two forms of contraception correctly. Contraception is designed to prevent pregnancy reliably.

Date: 2010-12-01 04:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queensugar.livejournal.com
And I'm just going to throw this out there, because I think it's important to say this too. I was for quite awhile (and will be again, hopefully) a volunteer unplanned pregnancy counsellor at a women's health clinic. I met many, many women, from all walks of life, who were experiencing an unplanned pregnancy.

And I want to say this: many of them came in there terrified out of their mind and more scared, as you say, then they've ever been in their life. But all of them -- every last one of them -- found a way forward that worked for them. All of them lived through the experience, many coming out the other end stronger and more empowered than when they came in. (I know this, becaus they told me.)

I just want to put that out there. I think the terror of an unplanned pregnancy is magnified with this idea that we can't handle it, so it becomes this massive, mysterious, terrifying thing we don't feel equipped to take on. But in reality, I have seen over and over that countless people who go through that experience discover that it is indeed something they can handle, and live through, and move forward from.

Date: 2010-12-01 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patsrockmybosox.livejournal.com
As someone who's come out on the other side, I couldn't agree more!

Date: 2010-12-01 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velkoria.livejournal.com
wow, I'm not pregnant, or worried about being pregnant at the moment but your comment helps a lot! Being scared of getting pregnant is a HUGE fear of mine, and most women and yet SO many do it and well... it's just comforting to read your comment for whenever I freak out and have those 'moments' of fear =)

Date: 2010-12-01 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ananasparachute.livejournal.com
I reiterate what everyone else is saying. I would put in a complaint about your doctor! Any doctor that would automatically assume that vaginal bleeding is due to being pregnant isn't practicing responsibly.

Date: 2010-12-01 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spicytoys.livejournal.com
It was really shitty of your doctor to say that. *hugs*

Date: 2010-12-01 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiralgirl1.livejournal.com
It's all gonna be okay. Deep breaths.

Date: 2010-12-01 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattel-recall.livejournal.com
I read your last post just now. I don't really think you're pregnant. While I realize it's possible (nothing's 100% and I've heard of weirder) and I'm not a physician, I'd say the chances of that being the case are very unlikely. I've had crazy bleeding too and it was ovulation bleeding. I'd bleed for 1-2 weeks before my cycle was due. They wanted to test me for pregnancy, but what for? I hadn't had sex in near 6-7 months by then.

I personally (not saying YOU shouldn't) wouldn't be offended by what the physician said. She could be right, BUT...she seems to have concluded that you ARE before any testing. Which is...well, dumb. I've dealt with a far worse physician, which is why her statement doesn't bother me. B**ch could've killed me & worst part was, I TOLD her she was wrong and she wouldn't listen. Basically, I was experiencing bad mentioned side effects of a drug & she stated it couldn't be the case because she was on the same pill and she was fine. *blank stare* Just seek a different physician if she bothers you. I did. lol

Date: 2010-12-01 10:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] archangelbeth
My icon is my opinion of that doctor's "baby-radar." O:p I mean, yeah, as someone said, nothing is 100%, and if there were no form of contraception at all used, then I'd be more concerned, but condoms + withdrawal = very effective, and fingering can too cause bleeding. O:p

*hugs*

Date: 2010-12-02 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] holeinfoot.livejournal.com
Ok, your friend obviously hopes your pregnant or is winding you up!

You're not pregnant - congratulations!!! If I were you I'd stop talking to your friends and carry on with your life.

Date: 2010-12-02 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheniqua-17.livejournal.com
first off i kind of feel sorry for your friend's kids, I have a friend who's that close in age to her brother and in a lot of ways it damaged their relationship because he needed an older sister and she viewed him as her peer...which has led to lots of drama

second yay for not being pregnant! i know how it feels to be in your boat-i didn't make it to a doctor but I had a friend ready to go with me to buy a test when I had my scare (boy was an hour away with no car) and i'm glad it worked out for you

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