[identity profile] xechox.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] vaginapagina
Has anyone ever tried the G-Shot?

I've been sexually active since November of 2005 and have never experienced a vaginal orgasm, and only clitoral orgasm about 30% of the time during sexual intercourse. I seriously feel like I'm missing out on something. My boyfriend has become almost as desperate to solve this as I have, and he mentioned that a female friend of his tried this with amazing results.

I do plan on scheduling a consultation with a doctor that performs the procedure, but I was wondering if anyone could share personal experiences?

Date: 2008-06-20 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tornattheelbo.livejournal.com
SO funny that you post this today, because my boyfriend and i were just talking about this yesterday, he mailed me the link for the story and i was like 'oh please shoot my g-spot with collagen!' but we decided it was a little too expensive.

I have orgasms with little trouble, not so much g-spot ones, but clitoral ones i come by easily

Date: 2008-06-20 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emily-arete.livejournal.com
The vast majority of women don't have vaginal orgasms - about 80% don't, in fact. You're not missing out on something; in fact, by having orgasms during intercourse at all, you're doing better than a lot of people.

Date: 2008-06-20 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valancy17.livejournal.com
it does, it sucks, it's very unfair, but that's life. we are the way we were made. *sigh* not much you can do about it, really.

Date: 2008-06-20 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emily-arete.livejournal.com
...no. Oral sex is a pretty good way to have orgasms. Sex can be pretty freaking amazing WITHOUT orgasms involved, too. Something being part of the way you're built doesn't make it one-sided; bad communication or ungenerousness can, but everyone having the best time they can have is not one-sided.

Date: 2008-06-21 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] knightlygoddess.livejournal.com
I have never had an orgasm from oral sex. Personally, I'm frustrated by it. Every time my partner and I have tried I'm definitely in the moment, I love the sensations, I love that he cares enough to try and bring me some pleasure, but it never happens.

Usually, with any partner, they lose interest in giving me oral because there is no "payoff" for them doing it, and I miss out on another intimate part of sex because they no longer find it worth their time. Now THAT is one-sided.

Date: 2008-06-20 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queensugar.livejournal.com
I guess I don't think it makes it one-sided either.

Orgasms are... nice. But I don't really see them as the crowning jewel of sexual activity. Like most women, I don't orgasm from vaginal intercourse alone, and like you I can bring myself to clitoral stimulation about 25% to 30% of the time (partner play does not bring me to orgasm, no matter how talented the partner).

Still, I find sex very satisfying and rewarding.

One of my concerns about the "g-shot" is that not all women find that particular area pleasurable. For some that do, it's pleasurable but cannot be a source of orgasm. When I think of my body, for instance, I've learned that stimulation in that area is uncomfortable for me -- I can't imagine how uncomfortable it would be to have that part enlarged!'

There's an interesting article here (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/06/03/LVG2QQ3F6J1.DTL) about the G-shot.

In particular, things I would be concerned about -- the G-shot has, to my knowledge, not been put under clinical trials to evaluate safety (short and long term) or results.

Even for women who claim or find that it does work (and there's no way of knowing how much a placebo effect is in evidence), the body reabsorbs the collagen in about four months, meaning that any gains are highly temporary. Since the shot costs about $2000, repeating that three times a year may be out of many people's budgets.

Date: 2008-06-20 03:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] archangelbeth
And then there's all the "what does 'vaginal orgasm' mean, anyway?" issue -- like, I can get PIV orgasms with sufficient foreplay and rubbing pubic bones together with a certain little hip-twist. It's not a g-spot orgasm, but it is an orgasm during penetration...

(And that's after over a decade of marriage -- him learning my reactions, me learning my reactions, getting positions that work... Sex takes practice and specialization! O:> )

my personal experience

Date: 2008-06-20 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valancy17.livejournal.com
For reference, I'm about 15 years older than you are and I've been sexually active for 18.5 years. Just so you have some perspective on how qualified I am to make the following statements. :)

I can count on one hand the number of times I've had what you call a 'vaginal orgasm.' (I assume you mean no clitoral stimulation?)

I have *never* had a clitoral orgasm during sexual intercourse without help (usually toys).

I have them no problem during things-that-are-not-intercourse.

I used to feel bad about it. I felt like I took too long, especially because sometimes, it just doesn't happen at all. I have learned that every woman is different. There's no "right way" to get off, and there's no way that works for everyone. I don't see what difference an enhanced G-spot is going to make if it's not being properly stimulated. And having had many years of sex, lemme tell you, it's far more common for it NOT to be properly stimulated.

Maybe you are missing out on something. But you're built the way you're built. Just because my ex had an ex-gf who could come if you just *looked* at her the right way (practically) doesn't mean I was a worse lover than her. I was just different.

If you feel that bad about this and can afford it, get the shot if you like. I personally wouldn't do it just because my boyfriend has a friend who tried this with amazing results. I wish you luck!

Re: my personal experience

Date: 2008-06-20 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queensugar.livejournal.com
The main reason I ask is because my boyfriend is determined to help me with this,

I guess one thing that strikes me is that the idea of "helping someone with this" implies that your, uh, orgasm statistics are abnormal or problematic. And I understand that they may be problematic for you, but they aren't abnormal or a problem in themselves, you know what I mean?

And I know how guys can push to "help" a lot. Both of my long-term partners started out like that too -- determined to "help." Once I sat down and talked with them and made it clear that me not orgasming wasn't about them, or their lack of talent or ability, but just how my body was wired, they eased up a lot, and we all had much more fun going forward.

Re: my personal experience

Date: 2008-06-20 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oilbird.livejournal.com
yes. this. (as always queen sugar has the awesomest answers).

don't compare your sexuality to what you think is "the norm". there is no norm. if we had to say what circumstance is the most common, it is that many women do not have orgasms from vaginal intercourse alone.

Re: my personal experience

Date: 2008-06-21 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] withevrylite.livejournal.com
I just wanna say, queensugar: you're so awesome and your comments are always so insightful and helpful and non-judgemental. I'm so glad to have you in this community!

Re: my personal experience

Date: 2008-06-21 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queensugar.livejournal.com
Thank you. :) I'm glad to be here!

Re: my personal experience

Date: 2008-06-20 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] somewhaterotic.livejournal.com
I agree with the other posters: He shouldn't really be hung up on your orgasm.

I'm one of the lucky ones who can have vaginal orgasms, but I don't have one every time I have sex. If I wanted to just have orgasms, well, I'd use my vibrators much more often. My personal feelings about sex is that it isn't just for the pleasure, it's mostly for the intimacy.

And another thing you might want to consider: sometimes focusing on the orgasm winds up making it harder to achieve. I would sit down with your boyfriend and explain that if you're going to have an orgasm, you're going to have an orgasm.

The injection is not only temporary, it's rather costly and might not even help you out at all. Sure their site says 87% of the women claimed that they had enhanced gratification, but how much of that was actually psychological?

There's a lot of variables involved here, so I wouldn't trust it too much.

Date: 2008-06-20 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awesomlytwisted.livejournal.com
So funny you should mention it, I just read about it this morning! You know, with enough practice you probably wouldn't need the shot.

Date: 2008-06-20 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paperispatient.livejournal.com
I'm not very familiar with the G-Shot, but I have read a lot about other more invasive and involved vaginal surgeries, and I would be a little wary of it. I know there's no cutting and stitching and thus you wouldn't have to be worried about nerve damage or scar tissue, but I personally would just be a little afraid of trying to fix something that really isn't broken in the first place. For me, if I'm having orgasms, I'm happy and I don't care what kind they are, but like I said, that's just me, and I can totally understand you wanting to have the best and most satisfying experience you can. Keep us posted on what you decide! :)

Date: 2008-06-20 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycolorfulheart.livejournal.com
I don't usually orgasm during sex either, and it used to bother me. But sit down and think are you really unhappy with the sex you're having. If you're having fun, then just enjoy it. My sex life got alot better once I stopped worrying about orgasming at all. Now, if it happens it's great. But as long as I'm having fun and sex feels good, then I'm fine.

Best of luck with whatever you chose. I'd try to get as much medical info as possible before doing anything--organs down there are sensitive and you woulnd't want something to go awry!

Date: 2008-06-20 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dayglow.livejournal.com
Personally, I would never even think of getting this shot. For one thing, it's not been rigorously tested. Secondly, I liken it to other 'remedies' for women's so called 'problems'. Implants, collagen, botox - these are all ways to 'fix what's wrong with us'. Except there IS nothing wrong with us in the first place!

I suppose if your only goal in sex is to have an orgasm each and every time, not having them would be a bummer. I like to have sex for the sake of having sex. If I orgasm, great, and if I don't... there's always toys, or next time.

My advice would to not do it. If having a lack of orgasms was seriously affecting your life, then go ahead, but it's not exactly a life-threatening situation. And what if it doesn't work? You're out the money, have collagen floating around in your vagina (and iirc, collagen eventually gets reasborbed into the body so you'd have to get it done regularly) and you still don't have these mysterious orgasms. I think it would be more beneficial to see your lack of vaginal orgasms as something that's how you're wired - or maybe you just haven't found the 'it' thing yet. I was having sex for well over 4 years before I even had my first one, and it wasn't until the past 6 months that I could have them even semi-regularly. Just like anything, the first time is the hardest, it gets easier from there. In any case, there's no problem with you that needs to be solved. You're just fine the way you are.

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Date: 2008-06-21 04:46 pm (UTC)
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Date: 2008-06-20 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 823freckles.livejournal.com
I can't find my g-spot, and I have searched and searched.

Still, that G-shot scares me. It seems pretty unnatural. =\

Date: 2008-06-21 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] withevrylite.livejournal.com
Well, you can have a "vaginal orgasm" without having a "g spot orgasm." I have orgasms during vaginal penetration all the time but none of them have ever been g spot stimulation induced. Like many others have said, not having so-called vaginal orgasms isn't the end of the world. It's just normal.
From: [identity profile] hmmm-indeed.livejournal.com
Margaret Cho got the G-shot for her VH1 show and wrote a blog entry about it that you can check out here - http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/2008/04/02/donut-pussy.html

She's freakin hilarious and while she acknowledges that some women have raved about the procedure, it just wasn't for her.

Date: 2008-06-21 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bomega.livejournal.com
I can't share personal experience. I also have never had a vaginal orgasm, and thought about the G-shot for about 3.4 seconds, and found it to be a really weird idea. It seemed to me that, statistics aside, our bodies evolved to have orgasms, and I just think that some high percentage of us don't need a treatment developed in the past couple years or so. I just had to figure out HOW to have one. So I looked in to techniques for achieving vaginal orgasms on my own. But enough about me:

Have you ever had a g-spot orgasm on your own? If so, perhaps you should coach your boyfriend on how to improve his performance to your satisfaction? If not, maybe you should start there. There are a number of books that you could get that might help. I liked Getting Off by Jamye Waxman. For more ideas, you can check out www.babeland.com and search their articles, which are a good place to start, although most of their articles are written in the context of their products. Once you can do it yourself, then you can train your boyfriend. They really are like dogs...I'm sure once he learns his trick, you'll be happy with him, and he can be pleased with himself too.

Date: 2008-06-22 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paintdrinker.livejournal.com
You might be interested in this article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20896254

Have you explored your g-spot with fingers or toys? Not all women are sensitive in that area, and if you're one of them injecting collagen into probably won't do any good. And, really, vaginal orgasm is not the end-all be-all of partnered sex.

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