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[mthomas1975.livejournal.com]

I'm new to this community and found it through Google.  The reason I am posting is because last Friday night one of my inner labia piercings got torn out.  Actually it's a little more complicated than that.  The piercing was 10 gauge which is supposed to prevent tearing.  The piercing didn't rip out it actually tore my inner labia away from the rest of my body to the place where the jewelry once was.  If the jewelry had been a smaller gauge it could have possibly ripped out instead of tearing part of my inner labia off but who knows?   For those of you who want to know how this happened here goes as briefly as possible.  My boyfriend has a PA and had changed the jewelry in it.  His jewelry got hung on mine and yank!   It hurt like hell and bled something horribly.  When I went to the bathroom to get a mirror so I could see it I just about lost it.  I was expecting the jewelry to be ripped out and not what actually happened.  I ended up having to go to the hospital, which was humiliating.  Luckily the ER wasn't busy and they got me in-and-out within a hour and a half.  It took six stitches to reattach my inner labia.  I was told that in 7 to 10 days the stitches need to be removed so I will be going back to the doctor next week for that.  I'm curious if anything like this has ever happened to anyone else?  I've searched Google and Yahoo and I found next to nothing on torn genital piercings.  More than anything I want to educate people about the dangers of genital piercings getting tangled together and ripping out.  Maybe by posting this I can save someone else from going through the pain and humiliation that I have gone through.

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[drownophelia.livejournal.com]

i don't have anything helpful to add about your story, but i would like to gently suggest that your user icon might be considered offensive to some members of this community, some of whom include sex workers, and it shows a lack of respect for their chosen profession.

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[drownophelia.livejournal.com]

i didn't tell her to do anything or infringe upon her "freedom of opinion and speech"; i gently suggested some might be offended by her icon.

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[atalanta0jess.livejournal.com]

This community is also about showing mutual respect. The safe space aspect of VP is just as important as the vaginal health aspect.

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[paraxeni.livejournal.com]

Having consensual sex with anyone, paying customer or otherwise, doesn't deserve a lack of respect, vilification, or disparaging remarks. I'd also like to suggest that you check your privilege at the door in future, not every sex worker is doing their job by choice. Hard times can fall on anyone, especially in the current climate. Let's hope you never have to choose between selling yourself or letting your dependents go cold and hungry.

Kindly don't forget that at one time you would've been paraded through the town as a person of 'loose morals' for even discussing female sexuality in the open, let alone 'daring' to express any vestige of sensuality or independence.

Times change, thankfully so do attitudes toward sexual matters. This isn't a 'safe space' for the self-righteous.

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[x-hypatia-x.livejournal.com]

Your comment, it is the awesome.

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[atalanta0jess.livejournal.com]

Word.

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[jocelina.livejournal.com]

Hi, kenasipoy.

I’m commenting because your attitude and wording do not foster what we consider safe space (http://www.vaginapagina.com/index.php?title=VaginaPagina_FAQ#What_is_.22Safe_Space.22.3F_What_does_.22empowerment.22_mean.3F) here in the community.

While you’re right that vaginapagina is about helping others understand "vaginal issues" (though we encompass more than strictly the vaginal), there’s a bit more to it than that. We’re also about empowerment (http://www.vaginapagina.com/index.php?title=VaginaPagina_FAQ#What_is_.22Safe_Space.22.3F_What_does_.22empowerment.22_mean.3F) of and respect for others and their choices.

A big part of empowerment is being respectful of others’ choices. Saying that sex workers are "not really askin for respect," describing their profession in judgmental fashion ("to have sex or encourage sex with many people you don’t even kno"), and implying by the use of unnecessary quotation marks ("ur 'profession' ") that their profession is not a real or valid choice of work is not respectful or empowering – in fact, it is disrespectful, and therefore not appropriate in VP.

Additionally, we want to point out that drownophelia was actually following our guidelines regarding icon issues (http://www.vaginapagina.com/index.php?title=VaginaPagina_FAQ#Are_there_any_rules.2Fguidelines_about_icon_usage.3F) to the letter by politely bringing the issue up with the OP.

Please consider this a warning as well as a friendly reminder to take this opportunity to review VP's policies. You can find more information on safe space (http://www.vaginapagina.com/index.php?title=VaginaPagina_FAQ#What_is_.22Safe_Space.22.3F_What_does_.22empowerment.22_mean.3F) in our FAQ (http://www.vaginapagina.com/index.php?title=VaginaPagina_FAQ), as linked here:

--What are VP's rules? (http://www.vaginapagina.com/index.php?title=VaginaPagina_FAQ#What_are_the_rules.3F)
--What is "safe space"? What does "empowerment" mean? (http://www.vaginapagina.com/index.php?title=VaginaPagina_FAQ#What_is_.22Safe_Space.22.3F_What_does_.22empowerment.22_mean.3F)

You are more than welcome to make a post over in contact_vp or to contact us via email (http://www.vaginapagina.com/contact.php) if you'd like to talk more about this matter or clarify any points; we only ask that you refrain from commenting further here to avoid derailing the OP’s post with an unrelated policy discussion. For that reason, replies to this thread will be frozen.

Jocey
For the VP Team (http://www.vaginapagina.com/contact.php)
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[mthomas1975.livejournal.com]

I didn't mean to offend anyone and am sorry if I did. I personally don't think it is offensive and feel silly for having to apologize for it, but I'm being a big girl and doing it anyway. It's a quote by Frank Miller who happens to write comic books. For anyone interested, the complete quote is "The world spins mad. The people are so intoxicated by luxury they forget everything that makes us more than house pets. Reason. Truth. Justice. Freedom. The human spirit is a shattered pane of glass – wrapped in soft velvet and soaked in sugary poison. Evil has seduced mankind. And mankind has shown all the chastity of a three-dollar whore."

[paraxeni.livejournal.com]

I think It's a great quote actually. Very evocative, although you wouldn't get much for 3 bucks these days!

[mthomas1975.livejournal.com]

No shit. You can't even get a gallon of gas for $3.

[jenn-possible.livejournal.com]

Oh, Frank Miller (http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20060207.html)

[ladykorinna.livejournal.com]

LMFAO!

[archangelbeth]

*winces* I don't have anything but my ears pierced, but I just wanted to offer my sympathies, and I hope everything heals up well.

[mthomas1975.livejournal.com]

Thank you.

[cellar-closet.livejournal.com]

You're both a little out of line, in my opinion. It's just an icon, shouldn't be a big deal. The icon reads more like something humorous than anything else, I wouldn't take it as an insult. However, just because someone is in the business of prostitution doesn't mean they don't deserve respect, and to think they don't is an incredibly ignorant stance on it. But I digress.
Thanks for posting this! It sounds incredibly painful, and I hope everything heals up well for you! I wouldn't be embarrassed about it, people have gone to the ER for much, much, worse. :P

[kelsietrpt.livejournal.com]

Re: the piercing debacle...OUCH, OUCH, and OUCH again. I think I would have been catatonic after looking at myself in the mirror. Maybe try taking sitz baths to keep the stitched up area clean? I hope it doesn't hurt too badly. :( *hugs*

And definitely don't be embarrassed. The emergency room has seen FAR more interesting cases come thru the door. :)



Pet Peeve Re: the icon--It's a Frank Miller quote, so it's practically literary. I think we're moving a little too close to literary censorship when we tell someone to take down their icon because it might be considered offensive. There's a lot of literature out there that offends whether it's intended to or not. I guess I could quote D.H. Lawrence in saying "Even the war was ridiculous, though it did kill rather a lot of people," and end up offending someone who knew someone killed in a war...most good writing is bound to offend someone.

[mthomas1975.livejournal.com]

Wow! I wasn't expecting to start a debate on literary censorship. If I had known that I would have tried to find something a little more offensive. Hee hee. Nice to know that someone recognized where the quote came from as I am a big geek. Thanks for your kind words and for sticking up for the literary world.

[drownophelia.livejournal.com]

what part of "i would like to gently suggest that your user icon might be considered offensive," sounds like "take down that icon, i am censoring you and your literariness and everything that goes along with freedom of speech as i am the evil censor of totalitarianism on livejournal", i'm curious to know?

[kelsietrpt.livejournal.com]

I said it was "moving a little too close to literary censorship" not that you were censoring me my "literariness and everything that goes along with freedom of speech" nor that you are "the evil censor of totalitariansim." I meant exactly what I said: that it's a pet peeve of mine when people are offended by literature.

The only thing that I found offensive on this thread was the girl who said that sex workers aren't deserving of our respect. Everyone deserves respect. To that end, I respect your opinion. I was simply sharing mine--not name-calling, crying "poor censored me," or trying to start a secret club of literati on VagPag.

I now bow out of any further literature/censorship related commentary on this thread. I'm not sorry for what I said, but I am sorry for posting off-topic and causing a hijack.

-Kelsie

[talklikelions.livejournal.com]

iawtc, kelsietrpt

[rovylern.livejournal.com]

Maybe try submitting your experience to BME (http://www.bmezine.com) for their risks section?

[mthomas1975.livejournal.com]

Thanks. I just might do that.

[rovylern.livejournal.com]

Check the risks wiki, they might have a base article already that you could add to.

ETA: Mild sea-salt baths will help aid the healing, too.

[atalanta0jess.livejournal.com]

WOW. That's pretty crazy...I'm really sorry that happened to you. OUCH. Eek!

Hopefully the mods will tag this...i bet we have a piercings tag or something. Thanks for sharing your experience.

[myrcwood-rose.livejournal.com]

Holy hell, my vagina aches just thinking about it*shudder* My sympathy for your labia, this is one of the things I've always wondered about when contemplating getting my bits pierced, I've gotten my belly button ring caught on my pants before and that was hellish enough. Love the icon by the way, I had it printed on a bumper sticker once and got pulled over a record thirty nine times the first week it was there :)

[atalanta0jess.livejournal.com]

Seriously? Holy hell to you! That's an incredible number of times to be pulled over. Scary.

[mthomas1975.livejournal.com]

I'm all for genital piercings. I had 3 of them. 2 inner labia and my clit hood. Since the incident I have taken out the other inner labia piercing for the sake of being cautious. I don't want something like this to happen again. I'm not taking the clit hood piercing out because it gives me much pleasure. It's done with a barbell anyway and can't get hung on anything. My advice is this, genital piercings are fun and enhance sex you just gotta be careful. I'm 33, have had inner labia piercings since my early 20's and this is the first time anything remotely like this has happened. It was a freak accident.

Don't know if you've read the comments but there has been much debate over that icon.

[teh-kel.livejournal.com]

there are some awesome piercing communities on livejournal you should check out
including _modified and bodymods. (they are on my info page under my communties also :D) you can check through their memories for TONS of piercing info. or just join them and ask your question there! they can be very helpful as long as you search the memories to see if your question hasn't already been answered there first. :]

[teh-kel.livejournal.com]

whoops. i didn't properly read your post. ouch :[ maybe those communities could still help you in the future :]

[hgvks.livejournal.com]

True, but I'm sure those communities would definitely appreciate hearing about this experience!

[dayglow.livejournal.com]

Holy crap ow! I'm trying to picture in my head what happened and even with my fairly large knowledge of piercings... my mind still boggles. So instead of just the jewelry coming out, it took your inner labia with it?

Either way, serious ows. Especially 10 gauge jewelry.

[poppleshatesyou.livejournal.com]

Ouch ouch ouch!! I definitely third or forth the suggestion of a sitz bath to help aid in faster healing. If it burns when you pee, pouring water over yourself will doing so will help a lot as well.

Also thought i'd mention if people want to continue the icon discussion, they should probably do so in contact_vp, since that is where policy stuff should really be discussed at length anyways.

[talklikelions.livejournal.com]

owwwwww omg
I've never heard of that happening
but I imagined that in great detail and it hurt my brain a lot more than reading about Jeffrey Dahmer etc in said great detail
omg omg omg

[jilliaun.livejournal.com]

I have 8 outer labia piercings, and a triangle piercing (horse shoe shaped that goes under the clitoris). My boyfriend has an apadravya piercing. Fortunately, none of our metal is entirely circular, but his piercing has caught on my triangle and tugged it a bit in an extremely uncomfortable way. However, my labia piercings have been torn by sex many times, though not like yours, thankfully.

I hope it heals up soon...

Do you plan to keep any genital piercings?

[jilliaun.livejournal.com]

Oh, I just read your other comment about keeping your hood piercing. Although.... the eight in my outer labia are all barbells, as well as the one in my boyfriend's penis. And sometimes they get criss crossed and the balls on the end get stuck on each other and rip me a bit.

Ah... metal.

[mthomas1975.livejournal.com]

I've had my inner labia piercings for over 10 years and thoroughly enjoyed them. I didn't want to take them out but since one of them got ripped out I figured it was best to take the other one out as well just to be safe. I got the hood piercing done a few months ago. Had it done when I was younger but it wasn't done properly so it got painful and started to reject. I was never really interested in outer labia piercings. Do they do much for you sexually? Also the triangle? I'm not suited for one so I'm not sure exactly what sort of sensation you get from it. The jewelry sits on top of my clit with the vertical hood piercing so I even get sensation from it if I sit a certain way. My boyfriend is worried that it could happen again and is thinking about taking out his PA. I told him not to do that because it's not necessary now that I've taken mine out. I love the PA anyway. Never been with a man with an apadravya though.

[jilliaun.livejournal.com]

Did the inner labia piercings do anything for you sexually? I've thought about getting a vertical, but have concluded that I already have enough metal in my panties. ;-) Anymore and I will be more metal than skin.

The outer labia are mostly mentally/visually stimulating. They do come in handy for wrapping ribbon around and turning my labia in to a "corset." The balls of two of them are positioned so they bump my clit, which can be nice when walking about but not intense by any means. However, they took fucking forever to heal. And are often pissed from ripping them.

The triangle... at first it gave me more physical pleasure. It is something fun to play with, and is stimulating to the back of the clitoris, more so than the labia piercings but also not intensely.

The apadravya is interesting, though it does get in the way a bit. Bangs on my teeth for oral. I can basically only have my head at one angle which really limits the variety. It can be hard to insert in my vagina unless I am very very wet, and it also makes anal complicated. I'd rather him not have it, but he is really attached. *grin*

[mthomas1975.livejournal.com]

I liked my inner labia piercings. They didn't do anything for me during sex but felt really good to be tugged on during oral sex. Basically they were just mentally/visually stimulating as well. Unlike your outer labia piercings, mine healed within 4 weeks or so. I was actually able to play with them (even though I wasn't supposed to) at about 2 weeks. My hood piercing was about the same though I was actually able to play with it without pain in a matter of days.

My boys PA is kinda painful at times. I also have to be really wet for it to go in comfortably and it still makes me bleed lightly at times. Don't get me wrong, I like it, it's just not so comfortable at times. He wears a CBR in him which I like to play with orally but it gets uncomfortable when I deep throat him. There are certain angles that make it easier. We haven't done anal as we haven't been together for very long. Kinda sometime I felt I should wait for. He is the only guy I've ever been with that had a genital piercing. I would think that with the CBR anal would be impossible but I'm not sure. I will probably make him take it out for that.

[cfoxrun.livejournal.com]

Is your triangle as awesome as people say they are? I think my anatony would be perfect for one, but i'm hesitant to look into it because i'm a bit of a weenie about the initial pain of a piercing (and i'm a flincher).

[jilliaun.livejournal.com]

I have... 20 piercings and the triangle is the last one I would remove. :-D

The triangle really didn't hurt that bad. It hurt, but was entirely manageable. The initial poke is painful, but almost in a good way. It is really quick and then the pain is mild and temporary. It was completely healed in about six weeks. You'd be amazed with how still you can be with someone has a needle under your clitoris. ;-)

[jilliaun.livejournal.com]

*laugh* I neglected to tell you if it is awesome. It is good, it gives stimulation. But it is not really intensive. At first it would make me feel aroused as I was walking around, since it was really sensitive. But now it does that quite rarely. I imagine the vertical hood is far more stimulating.