Masturbation guilt
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Okay. You all are going to get sick of me, aren't you? XD
Well, this is something that has been ongoing with me for...well, for years, really. And I really wanted to know if I'm the only one, or what.
I've been masturbating for years. Honestly, I think I started when I was eight or so. Of course, back then I had no idea what it was called or anything. All I knew was that it felt very good.
It's probably pertinent to mention, at this point, that I was raised in a very Catholic family. Went to Catholic school all my life; all that good stuff. So of course, as I got older, I kept masturbating, but I also began learning about sex in school. I got the Catholic version of sex education -- including the fact that masturbation, while a normal form of exploration, was also "sinful" because it was a form of "self-abuse".
Now I'm 26. I've come a long way from that Catholic schoolgirl. I've worked as a phone sex operator, written erotica, and have a drawer full of sex toys. And I still masturbate on a (very) regular basis, and still love it.
But....I know it sounds dumb, but every now and again I find myself feeling slightly guilty about it. It never stops me for long, but that guilt does surface occasionally. I suppose all that Catholic education dies hard, you know?
I know one thing -- if I ever have kids, I'm going to make sure that they know that masturbation and sexual fantasy is perfectly normal and healthy. I mean, after all -- isn't masturbation the safest form of sex you can have? *lol*
I just wondered if anyone else ever experienced anything like this.
Well, this is something that has been ongoing with me for...well, for years, really. And I really wanted to know if I'm the only one, or what.
I've been masturbating for years. Honestly, I think I started when I was eight or so. Of course, back then I had no idea what it was called or anything. All I knew was that it felt very good.
It's probably pertinent to mention, at this point, that I was raised in a very Catholic family. Went to Catholic school all my life; all that good stuff. So of course, as I got older, I kept masturbating, but I also began learning about sex in school. I got the Catholic version of sex education -- including the fact that masturbation, while a normal form of exploration, was also "sinful" because it was a form of "self-abuse".
Now I'm 26. I've come a long way from that Catholic schoolgirl. I've worked as a phone sex operator, written erotica, and have a drawer full of sex toys. And I still masturbate on a (very) regular basis, and still love it.
But....I know it sounds dumb, but every now and again I find myself feeling slightly guilty about it. It never stops me for long, but that guilt does surface occasionally. I suppose all that Catholic education dies hard, you know?
I know one thing -- if I ever have kids, I'm going to make sure that they know that masturbation and sexual fantasy is perfectly normal and healthy. I mean, after all -- isn't masturbation the safest form of sex you can have? *lol*
I just wondered if anyone else ever experienced anything like this.
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Date: 2006-10-22 12:15 am (UTC)My boyfriend has the same thing, too, (right down to trying to wean himself off) so it's definitely not gender-specific. Probably more like society-specific.
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Date: 2006-10-22 12:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-10-22 12:25 am (UTC)I used to feel vaguely paranoid like God was watching me. More like afraid of getting my hand caught in the cookie jar by God. (Though I never felt guilt b/c I could never see how what I was doing was actully wrong. Just fear of getting caught by God.) And that feeling still creeps up occasionally. So I've experienced similar.
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Date: 2006-10-22 12:28 am (UTC)It's weird...but it's never enough to stop me for long.
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Date: 2006-10-22 12:40 am (UTC)I'll refer to it as "fearing God catching me with my hand in my cookie jar" from now on, though.
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Date: 2006-10-22 06:14 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-10-22 12:42 am (UTC)but i have always been very secretive from my parents. i don't tell tham ANYTHING. i am 21 now--i haven't told them i am queer (i have known for 7 years), I am having sex (5 years), or that i am engaged (3 months).
I don't feel any personal guilt about masturbating, and i don't try to hide the fact that i do from friends, but i would NEVER talk to my parents about it.
I was raised in a non-religious home, but also a non-share-y home.
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Date: 2006-10-22 12:59 am (UTC)*high fives*
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Date: 2006-10-23 03:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-10-23 04:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-10-22 06:30 pm (UTC)I was also raised in a non-share-y home, and I feel like I keep a lot of secrets from my parents/family too. Not because I feel that they would judge me or be angry with me if they knew (though they are nominally Catholic), but just because as a family we're not accustomed to discussing things like sex.
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Date: 2006-10-22 12:49 am (UTC)Either way, there are many things I disgree with the church on and masturbation happens to be one of them. I'd much rather my 9 year old daughter (when I have one) explores her own body than the body of another 9 year old.
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Date: 2006-10-22 04:31 am (UTC)they way i understand it after all those years (and reading the catholic catechism for shits and giggles) is like this:
anything sexual is reserved for the union of marriage between a man and a woman with the intent of creating children. any "spilling of the seed" (through masturbation, oral sex, birth control) is wrong in "the church's" eyes.
even though im no longer practicing, i still get the catholic guilt...before i got married i would still have that little nagging...this is wrong feeling in the back of my head every time i had sex/masturbated.
but gimme a break. ive got a clit! it has NO OTHER PURPOSE than to provide me with pleasure. god gave it to me and im gonna use it!
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Date: 2006-10-22 04:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-10-22 12:55 am (UTC)As in... sometimes that nagging feeling of guilt makes what I am doing just a little bit hotter. ;)
But yes, I know what you mean.
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Date: 2006-10-22 01:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-10-22 02:58 am (UTC)I wasn't raised Catholic, just raised by parents who never talked about anything like that. I don't recall ever masturbating as a young child, but I do remember really well the time I was futzing with my shirt, trying to tuck it in smoothly and my mother went, "GET YOUR HAND OUT OF YOUR PANTS!" (keeping in mind, this was in our HOUSE, not in the store or something) and I was like *jumps* and being about six at the time went "hand in pants=BAD! ZOMG! BAD!" and lumped masturbation into that too and didn't do it.
Masturbation has been a wonderful way for me to feel better about my body and sexuality and to know myself better. Course, it's taken me since that hand-in-pants thing til a couple months ago to really start masturbating, but I don't feel any guilt about it.
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Date: 2006-10-22 04:26 am (UTC)Same guilt occurs when I'm watching porn, unfortunately.
So yeeep. It's happens to many people, and just takes time to get used to. I love masturbation, and I absolutely love how it has helped me get in touch with my body and what 'works'.
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Date: 2006-10-22 05:06 am (UTC)But yes, I felt guilty then, and I still (occasionally) feel guilty now. I used to be very, very VERY active in church, where they taught that ANY sex (including masterbation) was wrong and dirty and sinful UNLESS done with your heterosexual spouse.
I guess that that teaching left it's mark on me, and it wasn't until I "switched" religions that I became more aware and appreciative of my body (I'm Pagan and bisexual, both of which I'm very comfortable with :) ). Still, sometimes I still feel guilty about masterbating! And porn! Gah. I guess that another poster mentioned it; I *still* can't watch it without feeling guilty to some extent! It's horrible, because I can really get into *some* porn, but I just can't do it.
Anyway! No, you're not alone!
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Date: 2006-10-22 06:00 am (UTC)But lately what I mostly feel is pathetic. I feel like "Well, no one would actually have sex with me so I'm masturbating." Back when I had an online boyfriend, though it may have been a bad idea in some ways, I felt OK about it.
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Date: 2006-10-22 06:06 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-10-22 06:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-10-22 06:28 am (UTC)I never feel guilty while I'm doing it; it usually kicks in right afterwards, like, "Oh, damn. I shouldn't have done that." But it never lasts long, you know?
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Date: 2006-10-22 10:28 am (UTC)This has recently been complicated by masturbating to porn--an act that I found reprehensible before and still have a hard time NOT judging men about doing.
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