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[jigglyqueen.livejournal.com]

Has anybody been watching big brother uk this year? Well... this is a bit naff but I'd just like to say that I was really touched by Nadia and her 'struggle'. I think she is living proof that you don't have to be born with a vagina to be a woman. To me she is such a strong woman, with such an inspiring story that I will definately use her as an example to my neices when they are older and to my daughters in the future. I can't quite put my finger on what is so amazing about her, but to me she is just 300% woman. I don't mean this to be a 'wow, nadia is a convincing woman!' thing, I mean it to be a respectful thing about how she is now one of my most admired women.

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[iheartretards.livejournal.com]

Meh, I'm guessing you're talking about a trannie. I always had the personal belief that they were treating a psychiatric problem with a physical treatment.

[lottasmiles.livejournal.com]

I am not sure I understand what you are saying here.

Also, by "trannie" do you mean a transexual, transgendered, or..???

[jigglyqueen.livejournal.com]

the woman I was talking about in my post was somebody who had had the sex change operation. I don't know all the words.

[jigglyqueen.livejournal.com]

yeah I'm just amazed by her for some reason. Took guts to go in there and 'reveal' her past to millions of people.

[iheartretards.livejournal.com]

I'm saying that I think people who have a sex change are trying to treat a psychiatric disorder with a physical treatment.

[lottasmiles.livejournal.com]

So someone who believes their gender does not match their sex have a psychiatic disorder?

How do you feel about intersexed people (1 in 300 people I just learned...wow!) or, for example, people who we come to find out have the sex organs of one sex and the hormones or chromosomes of the other? Sometime they are transgendered or transsexual.

[natsukaze.livejournal.com]

I'm intersexed (complete androgen insensitivity syndrome, or CAIS) - genetically male, externally female, internally neutral. I identify as female and always have...but because I'm genetically male, does this mean that I have a psychiatric problem? I don't think it does.

I have a very close friend who's M2F transgendered. She's always felt out of place in her male body, like she was supposed to be in a female body. She doesn't have a psychiatric disorder related to her gender.

Sorry for rambling.

[iheartretards.livejournal.com]

Yes, I believe that the problem is with the persons gender, not with their sex. The very first thing that is decided about you is your sex, sperm hits egg, bam, you're a boy or a girl. I realize that sex and gender are different and I'm not talking about intersexed people or people with ambigious genitalia.

[i-bleed-magenta.livejournal.com]

and what about the ones who go through years and years of pain and therapy drug treatments to try and fix a "problem" that can never be solved that way? in some studies of the brains of trasgendered people, they have found that born males have a pituitary gland (or hypothalmus i can't remember) closer to the size of a "natural" woman, and vice versa. now is that a psychiatric problem?

have you ever met a transgendered or transsexual person? becasue if you haven't, you can't know the struggle they feel everyday looking in the mirror and seeing a person of the wrong gender. i know more then one transgerdered person, and i would say that their problems are by no means psychiatric. yes this can sometimes lead to psychiatric problems like depression, but it is not one in its own right. i can't describe the look of happiness and satisfaction i saw on my friends face when she had to by her first bra because her breasts were growing.

if you haven't read or researched this topic, please don't make such a blanket statement. if you are interested in reading something, i suggest "she's not there" by jennifer finney boylan. anexcellent book by an amazing woman.

i'm sorry if this is long, or sounds mean spirited. i feel very strongly about this issue, and have researched it extensively. trans-inclusion is very important to me.

[iheartretards.livejournal.com]

I think that modern medicine knows next to nothing about the human brain and as of right now a sex change may be the only option for these people. However, I don't think that a person is ever born into the wrong body. I do think that a personcan have conflicting a conflicting gender and sex, but I think the problem is with the gender, the psochological aspect, not the sex, the physical aspect.

Actualy I have met and know a few transgendered people. They reinforce my belief.

[iheartretards.livejournal.com]

I'm also not trying to attack the transgendered community or discriminate against them. I don't really care what other people choose to do with their bodies. I just think that as of now, with modern medicine knowing almost nothing about the human mind, its a sad thing that a sex change is the only way for these people to be happy. Its a dangerous and invasive and costly set of procedures.

[jennifer0246.livejournal.com]

watch your phrasing, please. we have renewed our efforts to reinforce our safespace, and will not tolerate derogatory phrasing, period.

if you would like information on how best to phrase things in regard to gender/sexuality, feel free to contact me and i will be happy to provide links.

[partyupgal4ever.livejournal.com]

That sounds just like the Strong Medicine episode I watched before.

[shallowgothgirl.livejournal.com]

I use to live with a pre-op trannie. Man! She soooooo taught me a few things about being a woman! I miss her so much... Where are you Christine?!?

[fifthconundrum.livejournal.com]

I don't watch the show, but I'd like to know what you specifically find amazing about her. I like reading about strong women.

[jigglyqueen.livejournal.com]

I find it difficult to put my finger on what it is that amazes me about her but... something to do with the guts it took for her to go in that big brother house and reveal to millions of people her past. she did it for acceptance, kind of to test acceptance, and the fact that she won is amazing.

She is so ultra-feminine, and the fact that she has had to fight to be seen as a woman makes that all the more fantastic in my eyes.

[fifthconundrum.livejournal.com]

That really is amazing. It had to have taken an incredible amount of guts for her to reveal her past to the world!

I've only become truly aware of transgendered people in the past year or so; I've always known they existed, but I never much paid attention to them, except to mock them. (I was a product of my environment.) Once I began to educate myself by paying close attention to what they had to say about their experiences, I grew to respect them a great deal. I cannot imagine going through life feeling as though you were born in the wrong body, and I cannot grasp the amount of courage it takes to choose to publicly come out as a different gender, especially to those who have known you for years. So I understand your being impressed with her; I am impressed, and I barely know anything about her!