Gardasil

Jan. 11th, 2008 07:55 pm
[identity profile] ravens-circle.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] vaginapagina
OT? Will delete if not allowed.

I was wondering is there any good anti-Gardasil articles out there? I have to write about it for a class and I would like to hear what people who are against Gardasil have to say.

Thanks.
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Date: 2008-01-12 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arularia.livejournal.com
The major complaint that I heard against Gardasil is that it will "encourage young girls/women to become promiscuous." Personally, I think that's a load of horseshit, but you might be able to use it for your paper.

Date: 2008-01-12 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arularia.livejournal.com
Welcome! Hope it helps. :)

Date: 2008-01-12 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zombiebunney.livejournal.com
I had a friend blame it for his girlfriends PID - is that possible?

Date: 2008-01-12 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennifer0246.livejournal.com
no. PID is caused by untreated infection, typically bacterial infections like chlamydia or gonorrhea, but sometimes things like bacterial vaginosis as well.

Date: 2008-01-12 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arularia.livejournal.com
Most often, PID is caused by gonorrhea or chlamydia although some cases can occur due to recurring BV infection. I did some searching around to try to find *something* that connected either Gardasil or HPV with PID, but I couldn't come up with anything. And every mention I've seen of treating PID involved antibiotics which means that, at least for now, medical professionals have no reason to suspect that pelvic inflammatory disease could be tied to something viral. I also didn't see any mention of PID not responding to antibiotic treatment which, again, points to something bacterial and not viral.

So, in short, I'm not going to give a definite "no" because I'm not a doctor or a researcher, but I think the chances are slim to none. What probably happened in your friends case is that his girlfriend had been developing symptoms of PID for awhile before she got the Gardasil shots. Then, after receiving the vaccination, her PID was diagnosed which led him to blame the vaccine.

This is why it's important to remember that correlation does not mean causation. Two things can happen at the same time without actually be linked together or with one thing causes or being an effect of the other.

Date: 2008-01-12 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 5ampunkrock.livejournal.com
One argument I've heard is the potential for long-term risks/side effects that have yet to be determined since the vaccine is so new. Unfortunately, I don't know of any articles that pertain to that directly, but perhaps you can google it and see what you find.

Good luck :)

Date: 2008-01-12 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frolicnaked.livejournal.com
This post (http://community.livejournal.com/vaginapagina/11494046.html#comments) from a few months ago contains a similar request. I know some of the sources in the comments are decent and some of them are utter crap -- but there's also some good VP discussion about which is which. ;)

Maintainer Request

Date: 2008-01-12 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frolicnaked.livejournal.com
Hi! Just a quick note to let you know that VP has a policy (http://www.vaginapagina.com/index.php?title=VaginaPagina_FAQ#What_about_surveys_for_class_or_other_academic_help.3F) asking that people seeking homework help contact us before posting in VP.

Basically, though VP is a good resource for discussing sexual and reproductive health issues, it's not a great venue for getting help with academic projects. Is there a way you could edit your post to frame the issue in a manner that lends itself better to creating good discussion within VP? Examples could include asking members about their own opinions on the vaccine and/or how they'd weigh the pros and cons when deciding whether to get Gardasil for themselves.

If you have any questions about this or other VP policies, feel free to bring them up over in [livejournal.com profile] contact_vp.

Thanks,
Tori
For the VP Team
[livejournal.com profile] contact_vp

Date: 2008-01-12 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sheni-k.livejournal.com
http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=20070827_108312_108312&source=srch

Cover article from Maclean's magazine about the vaccine in Canada

Date: 2008-01-12 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinstotle.livejournal.com
i know that in canada you can only get it for free if you are a girl in 8th grade. otherwise it's expensive as fuck (for a vaccine), and you have to get a shot 3 times in one year. after that i think you are fully protected.

Date: 2008-01-12 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mandaryn.livejournal.com
To lend some personal opinion towards this (as somewhat suggested by a mod), and why I opted not to receive the vaccine at this time.

I'm 26, married for less than 6 months, but have been with the same man for almost 4 years. I've been getting regular pap tests for the past 3 years (started going a year after dating my husband) which have been coming back clear of any problems. I discussed weather or not to get the vaccine with my gyno, asking if she thought it would be a good choice for me. Being that I'm right on the age recommendation cut-off, in a monogamous relationship, and that it's still a new product on the market, we both felt that I would be ok in not receiving the vaccine. She explained that I could always get it later should I decide I want to get it.

Another factor in my choosing not to get it, is that I'm a big baby when it comes to shots. =( Had my doctor thought it would truly be beneficial to me, I probably would have bucked up and gotten it. So while my choice for not getting it was leaning more on personal reasons, I also had some doctor-discussed and "approved" (so to speak) ones too.

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