[identity profile] lyon23girl.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] vaginapagina

Hi Everyone,

I've been a member of this community for  a while now,  but I've come out of "lurkdom" at last to ask a question.

For the last couple of months I've been experiencing night sweats that leave me drenched in the morning and hot flashes in the four or five days before my period and  the first one or two day of my period.

I also tend to get "hot flashes" to the point that I will suddenly feel quite nauseous because I’m so hot. 

I'm nowhere near menopause and all the information on these types of symptoms seems  to be linked to menopause or pre-menopause. : /

I'm getting a little concerned here, as I hope this doesn’t mean that my body is going into an early menopause..... ? If any of you have had similar symptoms, I would appreciate your input.

I have recently been diagnosed with a probable “nodule” on my thyroid gland. I have to go for an ultrasound to verify my GP’s findings, but I'm not sure that these are linked in any way, as my symptoms usually appear before and/or during my period.

Many thanks in
advance
XXXX

Date: 2009-01-31 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] campfire-light.livejournal.com
I wish I could help you, but I just want to say that you're not alone.

For some reason, around my period I get really really hot for no real reason. I think they might be able to be classified as hot flashes. It happens in the few days leading up to my period and in the first day or two of it. I'll just randomly get really hot and miserable, then it will go away as quickly as it started. It's strange, because it just started happening like 3 periods ago.

I'm sorry that that probably doesn't help, but you're not alone!

Date: 2009-01-31 03:13 pm (UTC)
archangelbeth: An egyptian-inspired eye, centered between feathered wings. (Eye in the Pyrawings)
From: [personal profile] archangelbeth
A quick scan of Google (hot flashes thyroid) reveals that hot flashes can also be caused by a malfunctioning thyroid, yes. (I'd do more links, but Google's new "hai, dis site has gots malware" function is buggy and saying everything has malware, and it's making me more paranoid about clicking links than when it didn't have anything. >_< ) So I'd suggest not just an ultrasound, but also a test for thyroid antibodies, TSH, free T3, and free T4.

Good luck!

Date: 2009-01-31 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] campfire-light.livejournal.com
Now I'm worried I could have a thyroid issue. Wouldn't my doctors have picked up on something by now?

Thyroids control metabolism right? Or am I imagining that?

Date: 2009-02-01 12:22 am (UTC)
archangelbeth: An egyptian-inspired eye, centered between feathered wings. (Eye in the Pyrawings)
From: [personal profile] archangelbeth
If your doctors haven't tested for thyroid -- or if they're using out-dated ranges for "normal" (which is why you always need to get your numbers for TSH, free T3, and free T4) -- then no, your doctors might not have picked something up. I had to ask special to be tested, at the ob/gyn's, at one of my "year-or-two-after-birth" visits. And that only because my mom got diagnosed by accident and had been harassing me. (The only time her nagging worked!)

Yes, the thyroid pretty much controls metabolism.

Date: 2009-02-01 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] campfire-light.livejournal.com
Well, I've been really skinny my whole life, as is my dad and my brother, so I always figured it was just genetics. But now, like I said before, I'm having the hot flashes around my period.

Maybe it's nothing and I'm just grabbing at straws here, but who doesn't sometimes?

Date: 2009-02-01 04:03 am (UTC)
archangelbeth: An egyptian-inspired eye, centered between feathered wings. (Eye in the Pyrawings)
From: [personal profile] archangelbeth
Skinny can be genetics!

Skinny could also be thyroid related -- usually hyper, not hypo, but autoimmune disorders that attack the thyroid can swing someone back and forth as the immune system slowly destroys the thyroid.

Or skinny could be in spite of thyroid. *grin* I have no idea what my kid's going to do -- my bum thyroid, from family history, has probably been in my maternal grandfather's line for generations (undiagnosed, of course, but the symptoms...). The kid herself is, from dad's genetics, the sort who has to stand twice to cast a shadow, as my mom'd say.

I'm not saying it's FOR SURE, mind! I know full well that thyroid issues are my pet hobby horse. But I do think that thyroid-testing should be something everyone does every 5 years or so, just in case.

Date: 2009-02-01 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] campfire-light.livejournal.com
: ) I'm sure your kid will be fine...you're fine!

If I remember, at my next physical I'll ask them about thyroid testing.

Date: 2009-01-31 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordpainter77.livejournal.com
Don't know about the other two, but I wake up disgustingly sweaty the first few days before my period and I believe it can just be from normal hormonal fluctuations. SO unpleasant, though.

Date: 2009-01-31 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonshine5.livejournal.com
i have this problem - my dr. said it's probably low estrogen due to taking birth control, and can happen generally to women who have been on birth control for 5+ years. I'm on nuva right now, and still having this problem, although it seems a bit less frequent now i guess. another symptom of low estrogen is vaginal dryness. if you ask your ob/gyn about it, and they think low estrogen is the case, you can get a prescription cream - Estrace - to help at least with the dryness, but i haven't clarified with my dr. yet whether the cream has any chance of helping the hot flashes :o/

Date: 2009-01-31 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonshine5.livejournal.com
thanks... yeah they are really annoying. asked the dr. about switching and apparently nuva ring is the least hormonal there is of hormonal birth control, and anything non-hormonal is permanent, besides an IUD which they generally don't like to do unless you've had kids... so, no luck :( but hoping the cream she prescribed works. good luck with getting to the bottom of whatever's causing yours!

Date: 2009-02-01 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poppleshatesyou.livejournal.com
Actually, it is a common misconception that doctors won't insert IUD's if you are nulliparous. They are becoming a much more popular form of birth control again. VP and [livejournal.com profile] iud_divas are prime examples of the amount of nulliparous women who have IUD's.

Date: 2009-02-01 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loonylupinlover.livejournal.com
Have you been tested for STDs recently? It's VERY unlikely, but night sweats can be a sign of HIV. Again, VERY unlikely, especially since you don't mention anything like losing weight or getting ill more frequently, but if you haven't been tested for HIV recently it might be something to rule out.

Date: 2009-02-01 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] breesteinke.livejournal.com
It's possible that it could be related to your thyroid. I was recently diagnosed hypothyroid. I didnt have hot flashes before but since going on meds and going through the process of regulating my thyroid, everything else has gone out of whack including missing some periods and hot flashes in the days leading up to my period.

Date: 2009-02-01 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acs80.livejournal.com
I get hot (and cold!) flashes the first day of my period. In fact, I'll sometimes feel like I have a little furnace inside of me -- it's very uncomfortable. A few hours after I start bleeding, though, the hot flashes tend to stop.

Date: 2009-02-01 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-rage.livejournal.com
I also think that your hot flashes could be caused by your thyroid. Aside from anecdotally experiencing symptoms similar to yours before being diagnosed with hypothyroidism, the fact is that thyroid hormone is responsible for heat generation in humans, as well as being responsible for basal metabolic rate, which is essentially your body's heat production at complete rest.

Thyroid function also impacts the metabolism of (and the bodies sensitivity to) adrenal hormones, and adrenal estrogen is necessary to avoid hot flashes during normal menstruation. If your thyroid is making your body unable to process adrenal estrogen, it follows that you could very well have some significant hot flashes before and during your period.

I strongly suggest that you don't ignore this, and that you ask your doctor to at the very least test your TSH, antithyroid antibodies, and free T3 & T4. Also, I recommend that you do some research on thyroid issues, because the list of things impacted by your thyroid function is enormous, and covers everything from miscarriages to heart disease, to increased susceptibility to infection, to weight gain/loss.

HTH, and good luck!

Date: 2009-02-02 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-rage.livejournal.com
yw, I hope that what I've said was of some help.

It's good that you've had your TSH tested. An abnormal TSH level indicates an excess or deficiency in thyroid hormone available, but doesn't indicate the reason why there is either an excess or deficiency. To truly determine the cause, it's necessary to test levels of T3 & T4.

Additionally, you'll want to be aware that often, people who feel some symptoms but don't have seriously high or low levels of TSH are often suffering from subclinical hypo or hyper thyroidism, so I suggest that you ask for a paper copy of your test results and use that data to measure based upon statistical information that you can easily find online regarding what is considered normal, and how your numbers compare.

If your TSH level is either high or low, and your doctor suggests medication, I'd be concerned that he/she doesn't have a thorough picture of your thyroid function without T3 & T4 numbers.

And as a final note, (hopefully you're not tired of hearing me blah blah about this), if you find yourself still having symptoms of either hyper or hypothyroidism but have borderline normal TSH, T3 & T4 levels, ask to have your antithyroid antibodies tested. Subclinical thyroiditis can make you feel horrible, and without treatment is statistically very likely to lead to full blown thyroiditis, so it's best to treat the condition early.

Date: 2009-02-02 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinleigh73.livejournal.com
Well, it could be Thyroid or hormones, which go hand in hand. I have terrible night sweats monthly, and though I am only 35, my periods are all screwed up. Plus, I have abnormal hair growth on my face and breasts which is uncommon in my family. I also haven't been able to lose weight through diet and exercise, the way normal people do. Also have insomnia on occasion, and trouble getting out of bed and feeling positive. (no matter how many positive affirmations I make.) I have a goiter on my thyroid, and though I have so many bizarre thyroid symptoms, have never been diagnosed with a thyroid condition as every time I tested my TSH, Free T3 and T4, I was technically "in the normal range." I think this "normal range" for others is not normal for me. Be careful with what the doctor passes off as normal, if you don't feel good. Myself, I'm so tired of not having this diagnosed and being on the proper treatments to alleviate these issues.

Check out Oprah's website. She recently has been discussing thyroid and hormone replacement therapy. I learned so much just from her shows that I am seeing a different doctor about it this coming week and will be looking into bio-identical hormone therapy.

Bottom line: Do your research, and don't stop at what the doctor's say is "normal". Normal for you may not be normal for me, or others. We women have to trust our bodies and what they are trying to tell us.

(to erinleigh73)

Date: 2009-02-02 01:35 pm (UTC)
archangelbeth: An egyptian-inspired eye, centered between feathered wings. (Eye in the Pyrawings)
From: [personal profile] archangelbeth
Have your doctors tested you for PCOS as well? (And what are the absolute numbers for your thyroid tests? They may be using an old range of "normal" that is Way Too High.) Also, you may want to get the coritsol/adrenal test, too -- a friend of mine had that problem, and her symptoms mimicked hypothyroid symptoms in many ways. Also like thyroid issues, many doctors don't care about poor values till it's life-threatening. O:p

Good luck to you, too! (And you may want to check [livejournal.com profile] thyroid also, since there are people who know all kinds of stuff I don't. O:> )

Date: 2009-02-02 01:32 pm (UTC)
archangelbeth: An egyptian-inspired eye, centered between feathered wings. (Eye in the Pyrawings)
From: [personal profile] archangelbeth
Just to add on -- many doctors think that TSH testing is the be-all and end-all of thyroid testing. (Mine included; she's at least good in that she wants my treated TSH down around 1.) If you have really simple thyroid issues, such as mine are, then TSH alone is okay. If you are one of the more rare people who has a different sort of problem, such as turning T4 into T3, then you need to have the free T3 and free T4 tested as well. (And thyroid antibodies are important if you think you may have an autoimmune disease that is attacking your thyroid -- that can actually swing back and forth from hypo to hyper, through "normal," so you get a different result depending on when you test.)

For even more people, you can also check out [livejournal.com profile] thyroid, which is where I learned most of the above stuff. (My own thyroid issues being really simple. It just don' work, and synthetic brand-name levothyroxine (Unithroid brand) works great for me.

Crossing fingers for ya!

Date: 2010-12-19 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pat gormley (from livejournal.com)
I know this is late in coming but I just came across these postings and I thought I would share this link...

http://womenshealth.about.com/cs/menopause/a/perimenopause.htm

it mentions a few different things in there and hopefully someone finds it helpful.

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