:.abortion.project.:

[emerald87418.livejournal.com]

http://tworedlines.kepreon.com

That is the link to the project I've done for my Honors Biology 10 final project. It's on abortion, but takes a very prolife twist. My teacher approved of the project and told me to do it from whatever viewpoint I look at it from.

Please feel free to debate the points I've made but don't criticize my opinion itself... it's an opinion for a reason and I haven't made up any of these numbers. In the actual report (project.doc), all the sources are cited.

Again, feel free debate the points I've made, and constructive criticism is welcome. Being called a selfish idiot simply because I'm prolife... is not constructive.

I've spent a lot of my time and cried tears of blood over this project and I just want to make it as good as I can before I turn it in tomorrow.

Thanks!

Comments

[stinkythecat.livejournal.com]

I actually really like it. It's so simply designed and how you put each point on a separate page sort of makes you take it step by step instead of being overwhelming with it all on the same page.

:) And I'm pro-choice, so we can manage to be nice muahahaha.

[emerald87418.livejournal.com]

Thank you :)

[childishdreams.livejournal.com]

I found it well put together, especially since it is so simple, it really makes it seem more important in what it states than if it were gaudy.

I myself am pro-life. Before I gave birth I was pro-choice. I figured a womans body is a womans body. I look at my son every day though and think "I barely have any money, yet I'm still willing to keep my son even though I still have my dad supporting us." I have my husband with me and my dad helps us out tremendously. I was signing adoption papers, because I could never bring myself to killing him, especially after I heard his heartbeat at 1 month gestation, I figured if I couldn't give him a good home than someone else could. I was homeless during 2 months of my pregnancy, we were kicked out of the apartment we were living in with my husbands mom, we couldn't move because if I moved from where I live now I wouldn't have medical coverage. I almost went into pre-term labor but went to labor and delivery in time before it was too late. After having to think about my son suffering through that I could never picture having a baby, even if it is a fetus, die in the womb. If I hadn't gone through pre-term labor, but managed to get it stopped by aid of nurses and the doctor at Fresno Community Medical Center, my son would've been born weighing less than 2 pounds and fitting into my palm. If I hadn't gone through that my view point might still be the same as it was prior to giving birth, but having an experience like that made me realize that life is wonderful, even if the life is still in the womb.

[emerald87418.livejournal.com]

that is an amazing story. feel free to add me to your friends list and i'll do the same.

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[childishdreams.livejournal.com]

added :)

[iliadawry.livejournal.com]

Your sources seem to be very one-sided -- especially abortiontv.com.

I, too, was almost aborted, and am ragingly pro-choice. I use protection every time I have sex, but I also have some genital defects that I have no desire to pass on to a child. They're not fatal, but have led to a lot of trouble in my life; I spend every day in a pretty fair amount of pain. I don't think I should be denied sex because of this, I suppose. I think abortion is an inefficient method of birth control when it's the only one, but sometimes condoms break.

The website itself is a bit hard to read due to the font, and has several broken pictures.

[emerald87418.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the constructive criticism. The pictures are broken and the pages are down sometimes due to..

HTTP 403.9 - Access Forbidden: Too many users are connected
Internet Information Services

I'm 16 and have had my period for 5 years and I was put on the pill 2 months ago... it's helping but now I'm really suspecting that I have endometriosis. I have the most painful periods and cramps (before the pill) and it would just debilitate me to the point where I missed days of school every month... just because I'm a girl.

Thanks for the constructive criticism though, you raised some good points.

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[iliadawry.livejournal.com]

Genital and -genetic-, for that matter. Go me, for typing just after I've gotten up. Stuff like debilitating migraines that blind me, bad joints, etc etc.

[emerald87418.livejournal.com]

Actually, same here. The 10th grade administrator told my mother that I should be put on the pill because I miss too much school and it's not healthy to be throwing up due to PMS. It took my mother 6 months to take a hint. However, I still support contraception. It's pretty easy to get (I was shy of 16 when I was put on the pill) and it just would eliminate the need for a lot of abortions... I'm strongwilled and closedminded in this aspect. It's not you, it's just how I've always been. And no, you shouldn't be deprived of sex. But a fetus shouldn't be deprived of the chance to live. That's why I believe that contraception is a beautiful thing.

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[iliadawry.livejournal.com]

Like I said, I use contraception (usually two forms) every time I have sex. So.

[emerald87418.livejournal.com]

that's good.. that's what i'd do but i'm not having sex since i'm still 16 and still too young to deal with any possible consequences. i just don't trust my body.

[lacuna.livejournal.com]

It's nicely designed, but a couple of things:

1) Since the 1970s, reports of child abuse are likely to have increased because there is easier access to therapy and more people admitting to it, so less stigma. I really think there's a logical leap to be made between the higher rate of abortion and the greater awareness of child abuse.

2) I also carry a genetic condition, meaning there's a 1/4 chance that a child I have will be born affected to the point that it probably won't live without transplant after transplant and a very poor quality of life. I might like to get pregnant naturally, rather than attempt IVF with its limited success rate and often great cost (especially as I am, as far as I am aware, fertile). If I were to find out that my child was struck by the condition, I would probably abort it; would you accept this or insist that it live as, with long-time serious medical care, it might live for some length of time? I just wonder, as I find several inconsistencies with the pro-life point of view and it's hard to draw a line in the sand.

[mangofandango.livejournal.com]

I would agree that you need some more diverse references/resources, but I think it's a nice, simple approach to outlining your position on the issue. I hope you do well on it in class. :)

In terms of (friendly) criticism from a pro-choice standpoint, I think you're overlooking that sometimes, even when you use contraception well and responsibly, contraception fails. I don't think women should *have* to raise a baby because that happened to them through no fault of their own. Also, I don't remember if you acknowledged that sometimes women who have been raped want abortions, but that's important too. And, I know you wrote about how small a percentage of women get an abortion due to medical problems that would put her life or the baby's in danger, but I think that having the *right* to have an abortion if that is the case for you is really important and absolutely necessary (meaning, if you personal choice is to die while delivering your baby, than you have a right to that, but so do other women who would choose to live and abort the baby for their own sake or the sake of others in their lives).

I'm not saying this for any reason except that I thought you might want to flesh out the 'personal viewpoint' section that seems to rely heavily on the irresponsibility of women who get abortions, since irresponsibility may be a common reason, but it's certainly not the only or most important reason.(I'm also not suggesting that everyone who gets pregnant by accident ought to get an abortion, just that the right needs to exist despite anyone's personal feelings on the issue.)

[emerald87418.livejournal.com]

thanks for the friendly criticism :)

hopefully constructive pro-choice criticism

[isolt.livejournal.com]

Quibble #1: in the procedure section, you use the word "baby" a lot. Baby is an emotionally loaded term with social defintions. In describing medical procedures, it's preferable to stick with medical terminology. Same goes for the term "partial birth abortion", which is not a medical term. If you could replace that with information on the dialation and extraction procedure (D&X), with a note that that procedure is what is commonly meant by a "partial birth abortion", that would also be preferable.

Quibble #2: in the physical effects section, mention of the liklihood of those side effects happening would be good.

Quibble #3: in your personal viewpoint section, you state: Protection is widely available, easy to use and incredibly affordable. However, none of that helps if people are not properly educated about contraception, how to use it, where to get it, and where to get it for free or cheaply. You assume that everyone knows these things, but in this age of abstinence-only sex ed, more and more people probably don't know these things. You also state that Any pregnancy can be avoided if the people engaging in the sexual activity have enough intelligence not to do anything without proper protection and proper backup. Don’t want a pregnancy? Simple. Use protection., which as someone else said, neglects the fact that even the most reliable forms of bc still have failure rates. They're low, but they're still there.

In general, I would say that if you can, stick to unbiased sources and medical terminology. The way to win the hearts of most pro-choicers is to be able to argue your case cogently with accurate data, not with misleading and emotional appeals. While your site is very good, there are definitly hints of such appeals, and a lot of people will dismiss you out of hand for it.

Now that I'm done with my quibbles, I would like to say that I really like your sense of web desgin. It's a gorgeously sparse site. :)

[perplexxi.livejournal.com]

If you’re too stupid to use protection, you’re way too stupid to be having sex.

that needs to be fixed!

i have some problems with your 'personal viewpoint' page, too. not because of your opinions, but how you state them. you use the word "stupid" a lot, and are quite angry in your writing. i know this is something you feel passionately about, but it makes the whole section come off as very offencive. not everyone is stupid - but a lot of young persons are simply naive and ignorant to the ways of BC and pregnancy because of the overload of abstinence-only 'sex-ed'. you also place most (all?) of the blame on girls. while they have more to lose/risk by becoming pregnant, it does take two.

Any pregnancy can be avoided if the people engaging in the sexual activity have enough intelligence not to do anything without proper protection and proper backup. Don’t want a pregnancy? Simple. Use protection.

my mother became pregnant with every birth control method she used. pills, diaphragm, FAM, and an IUD. finally, she had her tubes tied. she wasn't a 'stupid teen' -- she was a grown woman and married. nothing is fool-proof, and some women are just extremely fertile -- which runs in families. also, many women cannot handle synthetic hormones like those found in the pill/patch/ring/injection, nor should have to. they can wreak havoc on some women's bodies. unfortunately, non-hormonal methods aren't as effective; doubled-up or not. hopefully there will be advancements made to change this in the future.

in the prevention section -- there IS ovulation after sterilization, the egg simply doesn't make it out of the tube and is re-absorbed into the body. of course this doesn't always happen, which is why even sterilization has a failure rate. (depo-provera, the mirena IUD, and implants are statistically more effective at preventing pregnancy than a tubal ligation.)

smoking does not decrease the pill's effectiveness, only increases serious side effects. the three ways combined oral contraceptives work is by 1) preventing ovulation, 2) thickening cervical mucous (making it difficult for sperm to enter), 3) and thinning the endometrium, preventing implantation.

overall though, i like the design. it's easy to navigate and has a clean look about it. i'm sure you'll get a good grade on this.

good luck.

[emerald87418.livejournal.com]

thank you very much.

[americanbeauty.livejournal.com]

I also tend to agree about the personal opinion section. You make a much better argument if you argue professionally. Do this by stating facts and not name calling. You need to write as though you are writing a very important speech for the president or someone equally important. I would tweak that a little bit.

Nice job though.

my comments:

[lokibat.livejournal.com]

it seems like i am the voice of the abortion experience on VP, so ill put in my $0.02
the design is great! it was easy to navigate but it would ne nice to have a "next" button at the bottom of the pages, so i dont have to keep going back to the menu.
now on to the content:
i agree with the other people who said that you really do sound biased. a good "Report" will give equal amounts of information from both sides, in an unbiased fashion. if you choose what information you use well, it will have the same effect as if you only talked about the side you represent. thats just good journalism.
the statements about being too stupid to use prtection is too broad. the sad fact is, people will whether or not they should. you cannot just say people are dumb and leave it at that. offer us a plan of action. remember that any time you write something, and this goes for english papers and biology reports and poetry and EVERYTHING you ever write, you need to have a desired outcome. you are trying to get the reader to change their behavior in some way. i didnt come away from that project feeling like i wanted to do anything differently. and if i had, you didnt give me any ideas as to where to start.
that piece of advice right there, i highly suggest you write down and keep for your files. it will help you tremendously in everything you ever do. sadly, i didnt learn it till my senior year in high school. now im a junior in college, and there are people in my classes who still dont know it.


"Why are 4000 women irresponsible enough to have a reason to abort every day?'

if you will, apply this as a contrast:
why are people so irresponsible with fire for there to be a need for firefighters? so many fires that happen are not spontaneous, or things that people have no control over. they often kill people, and destroy property. fires are bad. people usually do not mean to start a fire in their house. but in the instance that it happens, im glad that there are firefighters ready to rush in and put it out before it spreads and causes more damage.

there are lots of irresponsible people in the world. i agree. but because i was irresponsible with matches doesnt mean that i should be punished by having the firefighters watch as my house burns down and then consumes the neighborhood.

i dont want you to change your mind. there need to be more pro-lifers in the world. but it is easy for a person, especially a young person, to speak before they know. it will help you in your cause to know more about what really happens. do you know anyone who has had an abortion? do you know anyone who has kept their baby when they were very young? you have a great project, and it will get a good grade. you will be a better fighter for what you believe, however, if you know more. your information is accurate, but you do not have nearly enough.

please dont feel like im trying to change your mind. please contact me if you would like to hear more, i love to tell people about my experience. i promise i will be nice.
-isabel

Re: my comments:

[emerald87418.livejournal.com]

i'd definitely like to hear your experience!

Re: my comments:

[lokibat.livejournal.com]

email: lokibat@hotmail.com
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ive got so much to say, ites better if you ask the questions you find pertinant.
:)

[isolt.livejournal.com]

As for putting price above efficacy, I did that once, and broke three condoms in one night, and wound up at Planned Parenthood the next morning to get the morning after pill. :-/

The one thing that I always try to tell people about birth control is "never comparison shop for condoms".

[necromimesis.livejournal.com]

Any pregnancy can be avoided if the people engaging in the sexual activity have enough intelligence not to do anything without proper protection and proper backup. Don’t want a pregnancy? Simple. Use protection.

A friend of mine was on the pill, using condoms and took the morning after pill when the condom broke, and she still became pregnant at the age of 16. She now has a 4 year old son, but that's not because she's not intelligent. It's because the three methods she used didn't work that one time. And that is all it takes.